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“The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States,” says George Soros. It's not easy to fathom what he means by "just." During the Nazi reign, Soros's Jewish father arranged to give him a new identity as the adopted Christian godson of a Hungarian government official. In that new life, at the age of 14, he accompanied his adopted father in the bureaucratic task of preparing to confiscate Jewish property by going door to door taking inventories. An interviewed quizzed him about any leftover guilt from those days:
KROFT: For example that, “I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.” None of that?
SOROS: Well, of course I c— I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was—well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets—that if I weren’t there—of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would—would—would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the—whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the—I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.
After the war, he escaped Soviet retaliation for his youthful Nazi collaboration and somehow made his way through the London School of Economics. Becoming rich while concluding that society was corrupt and must be torn apart to be remade, he ultimately put his fortune at the service of a variety of causes whose common link appears to be agitprop and disruption. So clearly "just" means "different from this," but I'm still unclear.

But you know where all the dark money is coming from?  Those awful Koch brothers.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think the theory that he finds he works well in chaos, and so must increase it is the simple one for Soros.

Anonymous said...

Soros is a predator. Soros is old. Not sure how much longer his manipulation and finagling will go on. Hell he was born in 1930, that makes him 86 years old. Now that world politics have taken on a nationalistic tone, and Identity and tribal politics are alive and well and globalism is taking a beating, maybe 2017 will be the year Soros influence finally goes away. We can only hope.

Also, Koch's money does not seem to matter to Trump much....

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/01/02/kickng-money-out-of-politics-trump-boots-koch-brother-from-golf-course/

-Mississippi

Anonymous said...

and when it comes to George Soros, there is no doubt that, GUILT IS OPTIONAL.

-Mississippi

Grim said...

That was one of Trump's leading arguments for himself -- that he couldn't be bribed, because he didn't need anyone else's money. There's no sense in which that was a logical argument, as the capacity to be bribed turns as much on what you want as what you need. Still, it did prove convincing to many people, who saw him as plausibly independent not only of the Koch brothers but of corporate interests generally.

E Hines said...

I think it's clear enough. [T]here was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was—well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets—that if I weren’t there—of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would—would—would be taking it away anyhow.

It's that Left view of morality. Nor morality nor immorality (nor even amorality) is intrinsic in anything, it rests solely on whether someone else already did it, or not; or is doing it now, or not; or might do it later, or not. Morality is simply a specific form of narrow situational ethic: it's whatever will do him personally the most pecuniary or egoist good.

Eric Hines

raven said...

Ask yourself this.
What is first in a 14 year old boys mind?
What would such a boy,absent any morality, do with that desire, assuming he had what amounted to a life and death decision making power over others, backed by state power, and free from any retribution?

Nice family you have there, especially the girl. Be a shame if something happened to them, like ending up in Riga.

douglas said...

Raven, yeah that's a big part of it. I was going to say that to be fair, 14 isn't exactly the best time to test a man's ethics. Life is very centered on the self at that time, even for the best of us.

"I think the theory that he finds he works well in chaos, and so must increase it is the simple one for Soros."

Yes, certainly a big part of it. I think Trump is similar in that he too thrives in chaos and so incites it when he can.

Texan99 said...

No, it clearly isn't fair to blame him for what he was drawn into when he was 14. That he could analyze it that way in retrospect as an adult does shock me, if you can even call that morally incoherent mishmash an analysis. To me that's a picture of man in whom no one is home.

douglas said...

Indeed.

Ymar Sakar said...

People were talking up how bringing up Soros' past was out of bounds and that trying to limit his power was against free speech some odd years ago. Amazing how many things change, even as the people do not.

Guilt may be optional, but propaganda is not for Trumbart.